Check out this religeous dickhead!!

[SPOT]

Watch as this fool 'proves' that bananas = god exists.

LINK (http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/32362/Athiest_s_Nightmare.html)

[Cam]

Monkeys can do it better ^_^

[Joshu]

looks sickening without audio... ugh

[dominatrix]

haha, funny shit. i love religious nuts! they crack me up

[Gelsamel]

I know where else the banana fits very well, I guess God intended it to be there too.

[dominatrix]

yes, the eye socket :shake

[FROSTY BoSkitzo]

......
lollard he think about bananas too often i think

[Hampster]

whenever i have to spell banana i feel stupid b ana, dam keep going, b ana nana, SHIT TO FAR :(

[riddell]

lol

[Bignick]

LOL

[mudgie]

Hehehe... What a tosser. Why did God make them $10 a kilo?

[Bignick]

he's just going through a phase, the $10 a kilo phase...

wow, my posts are realy going downhill...

[X-ZemPt]

There is some weird people I guess...

[Jensy]

HAHAHA

[themunga]

Uhh yeah...that vid was taken completely out of context, I believe that he has a point, how would "natural selection" cause this banana to be made the way it is? It looks like it is designed for a specific purpose.
Also, explain snowflakes, no random occurance of events can make anything that looks like this: http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/photos/x031224a130.jpg (http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/photos/w031224a130.jpg)

Explain that...

[Peter]

the seeds of a banana are speread by wild aminals, and thus it is a selective charictoristic to be "convienent to eat"

also snowflakes, its quite simple really with a highschool chemistry education.
A snowflake's shape reflects the shape of the water molecules. Water molecules in the solid state, such as in ice and snow, form weak bonds (called hydrogen bonds) with one another. These ordered arrangements result in the symmetrical, hexagonal shape of the snowflake. During crystallization, the water molecules align themselves to maximize attractive forces and minimize repulsive forces. Consequently, water molecules arrange themselves in predetermined spaces and in a specific arrangement. Water molecules simply arrange themselves to fit the spaces and maintain symmetry.

:)

[themunga]

the seeds of a banana are speread by wild aminals, and thus it is a selective charictoristic to be "convienent to eat"

:confused: Wha? that's not even remotely similar to what I was talking about, I was talking about the banana itself, being evidence of having been created, and not a part of any evolutionary process.


also snowflakes, its quite simple really with a highschool chemistry education.
A snowflake's shape reflects the shape of the water molecules. Water molecules in the solid state, such as in ice and snow, form weak bonds (called hydrogen bonds) with one another. These ordered arrangements result in the symmetrical, hexagonal shape of the snowflake. During crystallization, the water molecules align themselves to maximize attractive forces and minimize repulsive forces. Consequently, water molecules arrange themselves in predetermined spaces and in a specific arrangement. Water molecules simply arrange themselves to fit the spaces and maintain symmetry.

:)

Yeah, prolly a bad example. Let me pose this question to you: what came first, the desire of a person to be hungry, the human stomach, or the bodies ability to protect itself from stomach acid? Also, how did we get eyes?
Also, where are the transitional skeletons of things evolving? Surely evolution was not perfected by any one species on the first go, there would have had to have been errors, (therefore deformed skeletons) so how can you prove that things evolved in the past? Or that the earth lasted for billions of years? There is no absolute evidence for evolution or the big bang theory, no doubt that you will try to prove otherwise :)

[Bignick]

explain this mr mungasaurus, if 'god' is so against gay sex, why is it that a penis will fit perfectly into another mans anus? AHA! PROOF THAT GOD EXISTS AND THAT HE IS A QUEER!

i shall now collect my million dollar reward!

[zyaN]

bahahaha BAM

[dominatrix]

evolution has to be pretty well right first time, over generations and generations the body makes small changes to adjust better to it's environment. people arent just born with 3 arms and stuff, unless their dad is their uncle...

[dominatrix]

btw, fundamentalist religion is so stupid. they're being completely ignorant of everything science has discovered and explained.

[Gelsamel]

But I doubt that humans will ever evolve from the state they are now simply because we change the enviroment to suit us. Whereas evolution is the process of changing to suit the enviroment. Oh well at least I can eat a banana.

(Btw you could always argue that our hand evolved in able to hold bananas well, not that God created bananas to be able to be held well, look at apes xD)

[Peter]

youve got a pont there Gel, i think physically we are regressing due to an easyer life, anyone can reproduce, its no longer just about strongest/smartest. its a very very touchy subject, because you then get into disabilitys and equil rights.

what do you mean themunga? i was on topic, the banana has evolved to suit the ones that eat it, as well as animals have evolved to eat that banana.

if ya want proof check out the fossil record, google it :) , it doesnt take you long to see evolution.

[Jensy]

SORRY, sorry, I really am. I just couldn't help myself, after a conversation like THAT.

[Gelsamel]

I just love that banana phone!

[themunga]

The fossil record is so flawed, there are so many gaps in it, that there is not just 1, but possibly hundreds of missing links.

explain this mr mungasaurus, if 'god' is so against gay sex, why is it that a penis will fit perfectly into another mans anus? AHA! PROOF THAT GOD EXISTS AND THAT HE IS A QUEER!


Your penis can fit into onother man's ear, that proves nothing... yeah subtle subtext there lol
evolution has to be pretty well right first time, over generations and generations the body makes small changes to adjust better to it's environment. people arent just born with 3 arms and stuff, unless their dad is their uncle...

Do some research...
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2021142&page=1

if ya want proof check out the fossil record, google it :) , it doesnt take you long to see evolution.

O RLY?


"and it is highly unlikely that any given organism will leave behind a fossil"

Transitions between major groups of organisms . . . are difficult to establish in the fossil record." (Padian, K., The Origin of Turtles: One Fewer Problem for Creationists, 1991, p. 18)

"A persistent problem in evolutionary biology has been the absence of intermediate forms in the fossil record. Long term gradual transformations of single lineages are rare and generally involve simple size increase or trivial phenotypic effects. Typically, the record consists of successive ancestor-descendant lineages, morphologically invariant through time and unconnected by intermediates." (Williamson, P.G., Palaeontological Documentation of Speciation in Cenozoic Molluscs from Turkana Basin, 1982, p. 163)

"What one actually found was nothing but discontinuities: All species are separated from each other by bridgeless gaps; intermediates between species are not observed . . . The problem was even more serious at the level of the higher categories." (Mayr, E., Animal Species and Evolution, 1982, p. 524)


Would you call current ape/monkey species our relative? There is no way that common sense could accept that, apes have no rational thought process that could allow them to start acting, let alone evolve into a higher species.


youve got a pont there Gel, i think physically we are regressing due to an easyer life, anyone can reproduce, its no longer just about strongest/smartest. its a very very touchy subject, because you then get into disabilitys and equil rights.



Uhhh yeah, disabilities? Do you know how not making sense you are at the moment? I mean I feel for those afflicted by them, but the only reason people get them is because of the external environment causing mutations to their dna (or inbreeding), which is not an evolutionary change, it is simple genetics, which God has given us all, the only reason that we are affected by inbreeding nowadays (in Genesis this was a non issue, because, well, God didn't want his creations to go sour, lol) is because our genetic structure has changed since that time (not evolved, mutations can occur at any level, Genesis was roughly 6000 years ago).

Don't get me started on carbon dating either.

Look, through all this, I am not trying to get back at anyone for anything, I am just pointing out the inherent flaws located in the evolution debate, because I feel so strongly about it.

[riddell]

ok so lets imagin there is a god and he did the hole creationism thing and religious fundamentalises and respectable scientises roles were reversed you and your religious nutcakes would be the thick headed scientists of this new world that point at a breed of frogs that have become resistent to pesticides and declair it proof that god dosnt exist

its easy for religious people to point out the flaws in evolution because whenever theres a hole in creationism
(such as loigic) you can just randomly make up somthing to fill the gap and call it "gods will" and leave all the problems down to a matter of "belief"

[Gelsamel]

Uhhh yeah, disabilities? Do you know how not making sense you are at the moment? I mean I feel for those afflicted by them, but the only reason people get them is because of the external environment causing mutations to their dna (or inbreeding), which is not an evolutionary change, it is simple genetics, which God has given us all, the only reason that we are affected by inbreeding nowadays (in Genesis this was a non issue, because, well, God didn't want his creations to go sour, lol) is because our genetic structure has changed since that time (not evolved, mutations can occur at any level, Genesis was roughly 6000 years ago).

Don't get me started on carbon dating either.

Look, through all this, I am not trying to get back at anyone for anything, I am just pointing out the inherent flaws located in the evolution debate, because I feel so strongly about it.

It doesn't make sense to you because he was talking about my comment. He said that with humanity changing the enviroment to suit themselfs bad mutations are left in the gene pool, and we can't ethically breed out those bad mutations. Btw, Change in genes IS evolution. Genetic change through ANY means, be it nature or man caused is evolution.

Also Carbon Dating, anyone claiming that it is accurate for more then 58,000 and 62,000 years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating) are idiots. Scientists use different types of dating for things that end up with the "millions of years" result. So trying to rebut that is stupid.

Despite how strongly you feel about it you cannot deny micro-evolution (cell-level changes) anyone in their right mind wouldn't. As for macro-evolution (growing another eye) we may never know, due to reasons I mentioned in my other post. Humans even save animals from the enviroment.

There are many problems with evolution, that is why it's debated as a scientific theory, because it is falsifiable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability - "Falsifiable does not mean false"). It isn't debated as fact. And it's why I don't totally agree with evolution. I'm somewhat of an agnostic, in my opinion the notion of God is just like solipsism or stuff like the "Brain in a Vat" experiment, there is nothing to prove it wrong, but nothing to prove it true, and that type of stuff could easily be reality, but we'll never know. (exept if humanity manages to make a vitual reality where the characters in the virtual reality believe that they themselfs actually exist, if that happens then I think it's almost certain that we ourselfs are some sort of virtual reality, but after that who actually cares?)

[Jensy]

RING RING RING RING RING RING RING, BANNANAPHONE!!!!
IT GROWS IN BUNCHES
I HAVE MY HUNCHES
FOR US TO GET TOGETHER
AND SING! SING!!!!!

[themunga]

OPERATOR GIVE ME BEIJINGJINGJINGJING

Well, all that I ask is that you don't persecute others for their religious beliefs, that's all, because if you do, God will own you all. Seriously, lakes of fire in Hell and all that stuff. I've seen too much now that I cannot deny the existance of God.

The basic moral of the bible is not to be good, but to be righteous (The only "good" person/being is God himself, no-one can be so perfect that they can be called good.) and follow God's law. Why is it so hard to accept that this world was created for a particular purpose? Agnostics, you are half-way there, if you need to find out if God is real or not, why don't you ask him? Try praying to God, place your trust in Jesus and ask him for the forgiveness of your sins. Whatever happens from then on is His doing.

[<3 Ropey]

ps jesus hates you

[dominatrix]

i believe if i bomb the infidel embassy, i get eternal reward in nirvana.

does this make me bad?

[dominatrix]

ps. jeses likes men

[<3 sacreN]

i know its all based on faith but your telling me that you dont doubt at all that a god exsists shit i bet even the pope would have doubt that he isnt there basing all your beliefs and morals on some book.... the life story that someone would have made up.

ps jeses likes men

[<3 Ropey]

http://www.lanx.org.au/forum/attachment.php?attachment id=763&d=1112584980

[dominatrix]

yeah, munga... the christian bible is simply a series of stories written between 40 and 100 years after jesus death. and the old testament was based on passing stories through oral methods. there is historical fact, in regards to joseph getting people into egypt, then the jews being persecuted for example...

and besides, there were many books written for the new testemant that contradicted jesus' powers - which were rejected by the romans.

so catholihism is simply a bunch of roman aristrocrats avoiding a political uprpar during the 4th and 5th centuries (around that time anyway)

PS that pic rocks!

[Gelsamel]

Agnostics, you are half-way there, if you need to find out if God is real or not, why don't you ask him? Try praying to God, place your trust in Jesus and ask him for the forgiveness of your sins. Whatever happens from then on is His doing.

Agnosticism isn't as simple as that they havn't decided or something. Being an agnostic I believe there isn't enough proof to prove the existance of God, but as I said before there isn't enough proof to disprove it, because it's just like solipsism where no prove counts against or for it really so it could very well be true, but it could very well not. I don't really believe in macro-evolution that much, and we may never be able to prove it because of what I said before.

I guess we'll never know.

[dominatrix]

i like candy

[krooga]

(exept if humanity manages to make a vitual reality where the characters in the virtual reality believe that they themselfs actually exist, if that happens then I think it's almost certain that we ourselfs are some sort of virtual reality, but after that who actually cares?)

We had one of these, but then Neo took the red pill and everything went to shit.

[Jensy]

fucking neo. Glad the cunt got fucked.

[Bignick]

Your penis can fit into onother man's ear, that proves nothing...

thankyou for proving my point exactly.


the thing that really shits me is when religious nuts try to poke holes in the evolution theory. knowing damn well that its impossible to prove religion right or wrong (see FSM (http://www.venganza.org/)).


thought: i wish that religion was classed as theory.


dont take offense to this, but are you for real?

[elliooo]

It's VERY possible to prove religion you just have to have....faith?

faith > evidence

TAKE THAT ATHEISM!

[mudgie]

Religion is just a convenient explanation for the unexplainable. Just because a banana has lots of neat, human-friendly characteristics, doesn't mean that some guy in the sky pointed his finger and zapped it into existance. It could have, but it's highly doubtful.

Why is it so hard to accept that this world was created for a particular purpose?
Why is it so hard to accept that this could all be a big accident?

[dominatrix]

why is it so hard to accept this is just one of an infinate amount of versions of the universe? religion is for ignorant fools!

Fools I tell you!

[Jensy]

what are we,version 2.0? no, 2.5?

[dominatrix]

3.11

for workgroups

[Joshu]

if you need to find out if God is real or not, why don't you ask him?
currently still waiting back on word from him, maybe i should get his secretary to pass him a memo or something

[FROSTY BoSkitzo]

Munga, it doesnt work like that apparently.

In His book (oddly, written by a collection of various people who arent him) is says Thou shalt not tempt the Lord. going and say "Hey, Almighty one, yeah you, with the large penis. you for real? Or are you made up for a story to instill fear and therefore extort and use people all over the world? Cheers mate, answer hen you will."

Religion is fine - it would be a million times less annoying if they made it more of a charity than a core element of creation. basically, religion is all about leading a humble life to get into heaven, following all them commandments, etc, so why not just say "follow these rules, and you'll be cool" instead of have hundreds of thousands of different interpretations of The Holy Bible, which slightly dont match? To me that shows a bad story - isn't that how teachers and cops prove a crime case?
not that i'm deliberatly relating religion to crime or anything
Anyway, i dont believe, probably never will, and just cause other people say "God is good, suck my cock" doesnt mean i'll belive god is good.

[cvt]

I think WTF...

You athiests, fuck up, noone else cares what you think, think what you like
You others, fuck up, the athiests think what they want.. cos there athiests.

what am I, neither ;)

sif fight over it, no reason to bag someone out cos they think different.
only I am alowed to do that, or in places where I deem it suitable.
and this is not deemed suitable.