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cvt
04-05-2006, 11:06 PM
Below is hopefully everything you would want to know about the current state of hacking involved with the xbox 360.
If you don;t care, don't waste your time reading it.
I've written it in the simplest terms possble so is understandable by most people.

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Since theres a few owners out here.. and a couple people have been being quite mislead by the news appearing around the web, I'll straighten a few things, starting from the oldest.


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Kiosk dvd gave no hope, it was never coded to be locked to origional media, to make it simple, lets say it had no media flag, which is in layman terms ok, but it actually had CR data to allow dvd-r everything as normal was signed.

The DVD Firmware.. this was massive.. putting it simply, it was a modified firmware that when it received the data saying it was a burnt dvd it sent on to the system that it wasnt. this is VERY oversimplified, but how it worked..
because of the way it worked, it excpects everything to be perfect, a burn never is, therefore the ISO must be manually crafted before being burnt to work. so this DOES work, with a lot of work, but it doed.
The nastiest part of this, is the only known way of successfully reading and writing the flash is by unsoldering the FLASH, programming it, then putting it back on.. This firmware is not released anywhere, not in the scene, or publically, the person (The Specilist) who got it to work, has not distributed it. Everything to do it yourself is available IF you can understand it, there are a few that have copied his work, but are standing by the same rules.
There are some teams claiming they can read and write without removal of flash, reading it true, writing is still something there working on.

The Swap Trick.
This works if you have a correctly manually crafted burnt DVD, and swap the origional with the copy of the identical game... pointless.

Are the Pi and Radian releases needed with all the padded data?... Noone knows, but right now, they are good for nothing.

Theres that tool for playing with dvd rom keys... its exactly that.. for the keys, not the massive part of the puzzle xbox-scene tried to make it sound, it allows the movement from 1 xbox360 to another, or replacing the dvdrom drive.. nothing else. and never will be anything else

Changing of HDD's?? ... is impossible.. atleast as of now, they are locked, and are being worked on. The best they have acheived is through flashing managed to make a hdd work, but only as 20 gig, because of the way its locked in, then hashed everywhere.. kind of invalidates changing hdd's so don;t get any hopes up there.


overall.
Unsigned code (homebrew) - Not even a glimpse of light seen yet, this console is locked down tight.
Games from other reigions - As above
Backups of games - Done with unreleased dvd firmware, VERY timesome, risky process even if it was released, then manually crafted iso's.. someone might leak this.. but until they work out how to flash it without removing teh fpga don't even consider it.

There is currently only 1 little bit of hope showing for ANYTHING to be released this year, and thats by a team calling themselves devil360. I have no inside information from these guys unfortunately, but from those I am, noone knows exactly who they are, but its beleived they are the guys that were supposed to release GCLoader.. which turned out to be vaporware.. but they have released working hacks before, so there not a complete loss.. infact, there the only hope of seeing anything this year the way things are going.


The only things that are working is mods..
ie.. plugging HDD -> computer to copy files
plugging DVDROM -> PC
a few other nothings.. and I'm working on a mouse/keyboard to work in FPS games.
expect some more serious mods, but as for hacks... don;t hold you breath, infact as said by a fair few guys.. "maybe we'll get homebrew running".. this console really is secured well, so all those people going "haha, M$, they'll be hacked before release" are totally wrong....unfortunately.

The adaptors, a quick google will find where there purchasable, but unless your a hacker, there pointless.
Datel have a nifty HDD-> PC which is actually usable to more than just the hacker tho.

The kbd/mouse I am working on, I excpected to have working by the end the weekend X was on.. as I had the mouse almost right then, apart from overflows, but the loss of my PC means I still sitting stagnent with no way to debug and I am going backwards without it.. I have the simulated kbd and mouse working perfect, but the ps/2 protocol is giving me headaches.. but once I get my PC back.. things will change..
This, as the firmware hack won't be released publically, the schematics, and photo's/video will be.. the HEX may become availble at a later date, but at the moment I am working with a guy from paradox on the ps/2 decoder, and the code is copywrited, so until I fully rewrite it myself, don't expect to be making your own.. but all things will come together soon.

Anyone with any questions, or heard something you want to find out if its fact or fiction just ask..
xbox-scene are ok for seeing news, but they do post a lot of nothings,and there forums are NOT professionals, there just normal people pretending they understand, or programmers thinking they understand hacking, so don't take anything said on the forum to be gospel.

Joshu
04-05-2006, 11:26 PM
Nice post :) So that's why you were chatting me up about PS/2...

cvt
04-05-2006, 11:33 PM
Nice post :) So that's why you were chatting me up about PS/2...

yeh, *can't say his name in public.. sorry guys* replied, got him on my msn, quite a knoledgable guy.. but unfortnately, as yed expect, whipped out copyrighted code.. so I'm working with it now, I *think* I see where I was going wrong, so I'll spend some more time on it tommorow, and hopefully most of my parts will rock up tommorow so I have my desktop back for the weekend.. really looking forward to this :P

Joshu
04-05-2006, 11:36 PM
How's the 360 when it comes to standard USB mice/keyboards?

The nastiest part of this, is the only known way of successfully reading and writing the flash is by unsoldering the FLASH, programming it, then putting it back on..
When you remember that Playstation mod chips were similar, just sold as a new PIC instead of overwriting an old one, you can see how modchipping will be "unsolder old flash, solder in new flash" - relatively easy.

cvt
04-05-2006, 11:44 PM
The standard USB keyboard does work.. but not in all ways.
The keyboard is supported for 'data entry only'.. for example, chatting on Xbox Live, entering codes.
As far as I'm aware (may be wrong) the only game that supports the keyboard for gameplay is FFXI, which for a MMO is expected.

The mouse, beleived to be accepted by the kernel, but I haven't checked myself or heard it from a reliable source, so this is unknown, but theres nothing you can use it with even so.

As the firmware is updated via live (and MUST be updated to play on live) this may change, but is very unlikely.

cvt
05-05-2006, 02:24 AM
When you remember that Playstation mod chips were similar, just sold as a new PIC instead of overwriting an old one, you can see how modchipping will be "unsolder old flash, solder in new flash" - relatively easy.

Yes, data can be interpreted on the fly with a fast fpga card, but the largest issue here is in no way is this legal.
they get away (to a cetain extent) with it in the past by it allowing games from other regions to be played..
the current dvd firmware crack does NOT allow that, and it can't, as region data is stored in the xex file.
they need to dig deeper still, it would be VERY unwise for a modchip company to make a chip based on this exploit.
its basically that if a chip was made, or code was released, microsoft has unlimited leeway to fuck that person over so hard, and they have no grounding to stand on whatsoever.

If you mean replacing that chip, its a 32 pin Surface mount, that is surrounded by epoxy of some kind.
cleaning off this epoxy is hard issue #1.
the worse one off the 2... have you ever tried to remove a 32pin surface mount (28 pin on old drive) without wrecking tracks, all those that have done it have damages atleast a couple tracks, and there many that have damaged over half. and these guys arn't beginners. I practiced heaps in the past.. and it is NOT easy.. don't be fooled.

this may get leaked, and they are making distance without the removal of the flash (please note.. they have NOT had success, its still looking promising, nothing else), but at the moment, and if this happens, there'll be a flood of crafted iso's appear on ng, and then they'll slowly filter over to bt, and everyone willlbe buying dvdrom adaptors and fhashing there own drives.
what your missing is a very large majrity in the scene arn't willing to take the risk, and they don't beleive in piracy to the extent that chips are used, and if you actually followed the scene, you too would agree with their stand.. I sure do!

Time will tell, I'm just saying don't hold ya breath, and its not that impressive in the first case, and may only take 1 update from xbox live to put it to death.. theres not enough understanding of the system yet.

Things take time, and microsoft literally covered up EVERYTHING they did wrong in the first xbox, plus more.
look at how long it took for ps2, and they didn't cover all there errors, and there secuirty was nothing compared to this.

all these options have been looked at, the fast fpga card is easy, and would work, but unless theres some manufacturer looking for jail time, it won't happen.. so hope for a leak and flashing without removal of the fpga chip.. then you may get backups for a undertermined amount of time.

cvt
06-05-2006, 04:51 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=323323742 2010282209&q=hacks is new, and is a fake..

A new way of the dvd frmware (much better way IMO) is very close to being finished (IF it works) and this one would be released if it worked.. but this is not anything great either.. in the way it needs manually crafted ISO's (different to TS's) and may invalidate origional discs (working on a workaround).. this also is a backup only, not reigons or homebrew.

Theres been a few more flashing tools released, but nothing to write home about..

Devil360 never posted the news that was promised.. maybe it will be late, maybe everyones feelings of it beng fake are all but too true.



Also more to another point.. if anyones dumbenough to have, or knows someone who have voided there 360 warranty and its died (or they killed it) I'm interedted in it ;)
Also scratched and no longer usable game's I may be interedted in too (just want to see and play with different ss's and cr's :)

cvt
07-05-2006, 11:00 PM
and I just receieved an IM.. deary me.. whats with all the fkes :|
http://www.bittorrent.com/detail.myt?infohash=4F1F4 27112C7A51A9C88DD392D3029 A37EA485B1&per_page=10&search=XBOX%20360&index=0

its fake.. common sence i thought woulda said that. 360 is not a dreamcast

Jensy
07-05-2006, 11:43 PM
good shit

Aphex
08-05-2006, 12:35 PM
I remember back in the day of the "original" playstation, this had a parrallel port on the back, before the game shark, it was actually easy to use a null modem and "certain" software to programme HEX exploits in games that could support it, via a dos based lap top or something...
I first test this with a game called parasite eve 2,,, fkn awesome game, anyway HEX hacking worked for the most part, but you'd have to deal with the game in balck and white, somethings just couldn't be helped...

but this Xbox 360 hacking seems to be a challenge i'd like to take up,. shame i don;t have the money right now to waste on fucking up yet another console!!!

cvt
08-05-2006, 07:37 PM
I remember back in the day of the "original" playstation, this had a parrallel port on the back, before the game shark, it was actually easy to use a null modem and "certain" software to programme HEX exploits in games that could support it, via a dos based lap top or something...
I first test this with a game called parasite eve 2,,, fkn awesome game, anyway HEX hacking worked for the most part, but you'd have to deal with the game in balck and white, somethings just couldn't be helped...

but this Xbox 360 hacking seems to be a challenge i'd like to take up,. shame i don;t have the money right now to waste on fucking up yet another console!!!

well worth taking up, absolutely awsome, massive challenge, I am just waiting for someone to screw up there 360 so I can dig deeper into it without destroying my own.. kinda can't afford to replace it if I kill it..

<3 sacreN
09-05-2006, 04:02 PM
yeh, *can't say his name in public.. sorry guys*

sounds like some gangsta shit

AK or glock?

cvt
09-05-2006, 06:37 PM
sounds like some gangsta shit

AK or glock?

Stop trying to make things bigger than they are...
He asked to not have his name or tag mentioned... nothing more.