View Full Version : Do you think Australia will be attacked by terrorists??
What do you guys think about us as a target for terrorists.
Do you think our involvment with the war on terror has made us a target for terror attacks??
Does our Bush brown nosing mean we will get the shit end of the stick??
Vote and Discus.
*NoN*Da]rY*
09-07-2005, 11:49 AM
i reakon so, and we deserve it for being followers.
i say yay to the war in iraq, we should of been involved... but we followed America blindly. we got it coming.
Peter
09-07-2005, 12:10 PM
we shouldnt immediatly do whatever America says, god damn i hate GWBush he is so stupid and we just do what he askes.
i do think that we have a resoncibility in the fight against terrorisim but how many innicent iraqi and afgan civilians have to die? and countless others
at what stage does it become our own governments creating terror in the countrys we invade
i dont think we would be targeted for terrorists when there is higher profile countries like the USA and england, but lets not forget our indoeneasian neighbours... we will just have to see.
anyway i think it will blow over... give it time :)
but how many innicent iraqi and afgan civilians have to die?
as many as it takes :p
Peter
09-07-2005, 12:26 PM
:/ the problem is that the fundementalists are thinking the same thing ;)
mudgie
09-07-2005, 02:31 PM
Most likely at one point or another. They're crazy fucks over there.
PS: The bitch is guilty!
[TC] Loki
09-07-2005, 02:45 PM
I think that eventually Australia will be attacked, but I don't think it will be anywhere near the size of 9/11.
I think that our hardline stance in our region and our policy of first strike combined with our out spoken support for America's crusaid is eventually going to be our downfall.
And I'm more afraid of what our government will do after the attacks than what the terrorists may do to harm us.
Most likely at one point or another. They're crazy fucks over there.
PS: The bitch is guilty!
hhahah that was me mudgie, that was the maybe option or the option for those that won't commit/comedy option.
she is guilty as sin, but i also believe it is a way to discredit australians, since the bali bombings made bali look bad.
<3 Ropey
09-07-2005, 02:55 PM
all i can say is we will get attacked by thes fgts sooner or later
FROSTY BoSkitzo
09-07-2005, 08:36 PM
I vote that we WILL get torror'd (pwnd?) but no one will care
Petor, you are too nice of a guy, really. I mean, the cunts deserve to die - They arent STOPPING these people from planning mass terror. so why are they any better? if you look, laws apply where if you SEE someone doing a burnout, and you do nothing, you are just as guilty, etc. Plus, it could also be a release on life, litterally, for those who deserve bettre:P so there. If you gave em enough ammo, and a big enough gun, i'd do it personally. That is how i feel . Sweep and Destroy... Yes sir
SilverCheetah
09-07-2005, 10:45 PM
those who heard howard say "we arent at risk of being attacked" should think a little before calling him stupid.
even howard would know we are a risk, i dont think he is that blind, but if he was to announce to the nation "he guys, some little muslim extremist fuckers are gonna come and blow something up" what do you think would happen?
public chaos, exactly what they want and then they would attack anyway, make it easier to slip into a country with mass riots in it's cities than one without.
as for whether we will get attacked, the question is where? does australia really have anything worth blowing up? something to cause sufficient public chaos and fear, since that is all they want.
Bignick
09-07-2005, 10:47 PM
i dont think we will be attacked, not in the next 5 years anyway.
you should change the 3rd option to ' Schappelle Corby is Hot!!'
you should change the 3rd option to ' Schappelle Corby is Hot!!'
Okay, i have never understood this. Shes not butt ugly, but i really cant see how shes hot.
kyzen
09-07-2005, 11:08 PM
Meh, who cares if we get bombed, just click "f" to respawn...
My views on this are often a bit... well...
I think that all the allied armies should form an extended line on the west of the middle east, then quick march to the east of the middle east, operating on stalingrad rules of engagement, sorta like they did in Tasmania.
mudgie
09-07-2005, 11:21 PM
hhahah that was me mudgie, that was the maybe option or the option for those that won't commit/comedy option.
she is guilty as sin, but i also believe it is a way to discredit australians, since the bali bombings made bali look bad.
Yeah, too true. I hate it how people say "aww, she cries a lot, she must be innocent." - fucking hell, I'd be crying too if I was facing two decades in the slammer - probably getting slammered in the bum bum. You don't have to be an actor to pull that shit. Australians will automatically take the side of one of their own.
Anyways, 9/11 was a bit of a fluke in my opinion. I doubt their grade 2 educated minds would really plan for the two structures to topple and kill that many. These buses are shit all compared to the attacks in America... But there's been a lot worse than 9/11, but CNN decides that the US is more important.
SilverCheetah - Good point. The world definately doesn't need any more hysteria, especially from the mouth of their politicians. The media feeds us enough fear anyway.
radass
10-07-2005, 12:30 AM
rY*']i say yay to the war in iraq, we should of been involved... but we followed America blindly. we got it coming.
Yeah, going after sadam's aluminium tubes (oh, and the bio weapons the yanks sold him, the ones now well past their used by date) was probably the best way to go about aprehending osama for 9/11. hang on .. osama who ?
And If you think we did something useful for the iraq civillian population, then you should possibly have a look at this study:
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
They have strict methodology and estimate the current civiallian losses at between 23000 and 26000 - and this is based only on reported deaths for events reported my multiple reputable news sources. Minor things like the loss of limbs or burnings arent counted.
As for terrorists, can you think of a better way to create an army of terrorists than to kill and maim thousands of civillians in an invasion ? Every single one of those people have family and friends. How would you feel if a young member of your family picked up an unexploded cluster bomblet and left nothing more than a hole in the ground and a few chunks ?
You talk about not being a follower -- maybe you should take your own advice and start thinking about what might really be going on here.
Now that we have done what we've done however, i feel it's our duty to the iraqi people to follow through and rebuild their infrastructure. This will surely take decades and many thousands of allied lives if indeed it's even possible ...
axl_morgs
10-07-2005, 12:56 AM
Some of the comments here are fucking disturbing. The mere fact that some of you guys can think so obscenely about an issue such as this is beyond me.
In answer to the question Spot has posed, I reckon that anything is possible, and when it comes to 'terrorism' I think something, be it minor or major, is inevitable. I would dearly hope, that if anything were to happen, that it was caused by a bunch of white-trash-melton-8 kids at 20yo-work at coles-drive a VP commodore-shiteaters. Wont happen though.
I say Australia already has terrorism, and its happening a lot. I speak of the Lebanese and Euro/Jap/Pseudo-American gangs that are around our cities. Those cunts need to be hunted down and destroyed, then we can worry about some sand-nigger with a tea-towel on his camel-jockey head coming to get us. (3 in one sentence! BAM!)
As for terrorists, can you think of a better way to create an army of terrorists than to kill and maim thousands of civillians in an invasion ? Every single one of those people have family and friends. How would you feel if a young member of your family picked up an unexploded cluster bomblet and left nothing more than a hole in the ground and a few chunks ?
If I could I would hug you Dave. :homo
By far, the single most sensible and non-alarmist comment in this entire thread (Spot you are immune cause the Corby thing is hella funny).
It does say something about the culture though. I mean, where are the relatives of the Sept 11 attacks, strapping explosives to their bodies? Thats not to say I wouldn't want revenge on someone who did that and it effected me. I guess Oklahoma city and the like are the western person's versions.
Fuck. I hate this whole issue, cause there is so much swimming around in my head, I just struggle to get it expressed. Sleep may help. Ill dream of fucking Jessica Alba in the pooper. :cool:
Joshu
10-07-2005, 12:56 AM
Minor things like the loss of limbs or burnings
This makes me laugh, not in a sadistic way though.
How would you feel if a young member of your family picked up an unexploded cluster bomblet and left nothing more than a hole in the ground and a few chunks ?
Have you ever played Worms? Worms desensitises Joshu to cluster weapons.
i feel it's our duty to the iraqi people to follow through and rebuild their infrastructure.
Who is "our"? It's not my duty, I never said i wanted anyone to liberate anyone.
All this viewing of countries acting as a whole pisses me off, our representative's opinion is not everyone's opinion. Why, then, are they still viewed as a representative? :/
radass
10-07-2005, 01:00 AM
i do think that we have a resoncibility in the fight against terrorisim
The real fight against terrorism is preventing them from ever becoming terrorists. If you have a look at recent history, you'll see that you can't win against terrorism, only hold out. Certainly not within any conveniant timeframe. The IRA were at it for yonks, and each gunship attack on a palestinian residential home creates suicide bombers out of the family memebers they didnt kill.
How can we prevent terrorists from going us ?
1. dont invade other countries and steal their resources
2. dont force 3rd world countries into 'free trade' agreements that allow our companies to exploit cheaper than cheap labour that is sustainable only through a complete lack of worker rights or workplace safety. Companies will ALWAYS take the option that makes them the most profit.
3. Don't be a cunt.
You might think that all these suicide bombers are 'crazy muslims and muslims will do anything for the promise of 59 virgins and a seat at allah's table'. But it wouldnt work if these people led otherwise comfortable lives - it's only in a climate of desperation and helplessness that vulnerable people can be perverted into being a suicide bomber by people with polital goals. Western countries do a lot of things that hold back and reduce the standard of living in less organised countries.
The 'war on terrorism' is simply the backdrop of fear to the progressive loss of western civil liberties and a return to 'total control' style of governing -- exactly the sort of system we 'liberated' the iraqis from.
axl_morgs
10-07-2005, 01:03 AM
All this viewing of countries acting as a whole pisses me off, our representative's opinion is not everyone's opinion. Why, then, are they still viewed as a representative? :/
Because fuckwits vote for them.
radass
10-07-2005, 01:14 AM
Who is "our"? It's not my duty, I never said i wanted anyone to liberate anyone.
All this viewing of countries acting as a whole pisses me off, our representative's opinion is not everyone's opinion. Why, then, are they still viewed as a representative? :/
Feel free to stop cashing your dole / austudy cheque, expecting the use of free medical care and enjoying the protection of our military forces and military alliances ;)
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.. at the end of the day to achieve anything we have to work as a team. and soon as you work as a team, some members arent going to be happy about the outcome, such as when > 50% of the population have no brains at election time.
Sadly, it's still better than any alternative ..
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If I could I would hug you Dave. :homo
:beer
It does say something about the culture though. I mean, where are the relatives of the Sept 11 attacks, strapping explosives to their bodies?
I think this is due more to the lack of a generally desperate / helpless climate, rather than culture as such -- at the end of the day life is still pretty good in new york. Too much to lose. But if something like his happened in a real shit poor and deseased place -- then i think you'd see a more volatile reaction.
That and the whole American 'free speech' thing lets people let off steam with marches and signs, rather letting it build up into the civilian use of weapons
Peter
10-07-2005, 01:31 AM
dave, how could you be more right?
its not the answer to bomb the crap out of them, rather help them.
despirate situations call for desirate actions. we as westerners cannot really imagin this, we have it so well in comparison.
its all pretty sad really, that these people are in a way co-erced by their own misfortunate curcumstances to doing this sort of things
note: all grammar and spelling errors are becouse i just got back from an 18th :/.
radass
10-07-2005, 01:37 AM
we've gotten pretty awesome at building well trained armies that can fight other armies, but they seem to be pretty useless at protecting anyone from millitant civilians -- even with all the powers over civillian liberty they have in iraq they are failing miserably.
In fact, it makes you wonder why they need all those extra powers delivered by the patriot act and patriot act 2 if those sorts of powers arent actually any use in fighting terrorists ...
Im sick of all this terrorism bullshit.
Thats it, i resign from the human race. I'll ring up Birth deaths n Marriages monday and register myself as a bovine.
Joshu
10-07-2005, 02:38 AM
Feel free to stop cashing your dole / austudy cheque, expecting the use of free medical care and enjoying the protection of our military forces and military alliances
What dole? What austudy? What free medical care? Aren't the military currently elsewhere, under the command of another country?
Golly Australia does a lot for me.</ungrateful>
They have strict methodology and estimate the current civiallian losses at between 23000 and 26000 - and this is based only on reported deaths for events reported my multiple reputable news sources.
I'LL GIVE YOU FUCKING COLLATERAL DAMAGE!!
ps: how cool is my new avatar?!?!
dominatrix
10-07-2005, 06:47 PM
fuck all this shit - if they dont live by our rules, they shouldn't live at all.
radass
10-07-2005, 07:22 PM
fuck all this shit - if they dont live by our rules, they shouldn't live at all.
I guess that's what the terrorists thought about the people of London
Peter
10-07-2005, 08:06 PM
becouse what makes your belives more important or you better?
fuck all this shit - if they dont live by our rules, they shouldn't live at all.
i dont know where to start telling you whats wrong with that, other than ALL OF IT :| you seriosly need to think about what your saying...
Joshu
10-07-2005, 08:35 PM
ps: how cool is my new avatar?!?!
Rather cool. How do I make a movie avatar of my own? Tutorial in this otherwise worthless thread please. :)
i get the video i want and drop it into to VirtualDub. (http://www.virtualdub.org/)
From there you cut the video down to the frames you want.
then crop the video with null transform filter.
then export the video.
drop it into flash and export it as an animated gif.
you'll have to play with the size and colour depth to get it the right size for the forums.
Joshu
10-07-2005, 09:10 PM
:O! You can drop movies into flash? What a genius idea!
dominatrix
10-07-2005, 09:15 PM
fuck all this shit - if they dont live by our rules, they shouldn't live at all.
by this, i meant we have a far better social system. far from perfect, but a fucking million times better than what they are trying to promote.
Aphotic
11-07-2005, 02:45 AM
yes.....a lot of different views here.... i dont wanna bitch about "terrorism" shit happens, people kill other fucking people and whether they "deserve" it or not isnt the point, what i want to bitch about it is the media, i was kinda disgusted by camera men climbling on ambulances and crap to get the best shot of the carnage, that and the running death counter they keep on screen.... but theg idiological bullshit being piped into our brains that lets the US and there bitches get away with attrocities that come back to bite us, we kill a few hudred thousand civilians, big deal, no ones gonna miss em cos a)there not w other thing i hate is faux news..... a current affair needs to burn and so do the fear mongering people that make it, a current afair talking about the "arab qaurter" of london.... and then having the fucking music... if you saw the show try and remember the dramatic music, its worse than in a bad tear jerker film and even something like team america: world police would struggle to take the piss out of that shit. and then intermitantly they cross to terrorism "experts" who will just agree that sydney is a potential terrorism target, who cares? not me, but lots of "hard working ordinary australians" will, and its this government agenda, trend setting bullshit being piped into our homes by good old public broadcasting that creates a climate that allows the US and its bitches to get away with attrocities inspired by greed. people fear brown people and the media only makes it worse, tony blair will talk about londoners working together and other shit but if you look arab, your fucked right now, as an idian friend of mine has discovered.
What happened in london is bad but its comparable to a case of mondayitis for the people in gaza, and iraq and afghanistan, and all the places that get invaded by brown people.... the dafuar (spellcheck please) region has gotten crap all media attention, why? cos there not white, anyway id like to say fuck this country im getting sick of seeing all the people here who just dont give a shit... no one seems to know the truth or understand the root casues of terrorism, yet there willing to hate brown people for it, if there was more understanding we'd see a serious increase in anti US sentiment here and a much larger acceptance of other cultures and our greedy fucking government might have to take notice, still im young, and i sound like a hippie, and that was the 60s and nothings changed still, so i guess i'll get older and just give up, anyway thank you for listening you've been a wonderful audience and ive enjoyed the rant, goodnight!
*NoN*Da]rY*
11-07-2005, 09:41 AM
CBF reading that realy big block of text...
Rogue
11-07-2005, 09:45 AM
Some good things for me to ponder now that i'm over the initial rage here. Thanks guys.
But I do have a question; How can we help these struggling sovreignties (is that even a word?) when they've got to a point where they are openly attacking non-combatants and aid workers?
How do you help out countries to improve their standard of living without just forgiving their foreign debt and sending them boats of food?
If these countries wracked by war and poverty want meaningful foreign investment which will help to rebuild their own economy, there has to be an understanding that its not going to happen unless there is a guarentee of security locally. In most circumstances this is going to mean troops (grunts, specops, mercs or others).
Like if you were going to start up a food packing factory in Iraq (bad example, but it'll do). You employ Iraqi construction companies (or at least local workers), you buy Iraqi materials to build your factory, and you hire your staff from the populace (drivers, mechanics, engineers, packers, management, etc).
But because you are a foreign entity within their country, I'd wager that the probability of you're employees/construction workers being threatened/kidnapped regularly, your trucks getting hijacked, and maybe even your facilities sabotaged would be in the extreme. Regardless of what you are doing (packing food, providing employment). You're an outside influence on their land.
Now as has been noted before, companies (which would include your hypothetical packing company) are always out to maximise profit and reduce costs. So if you have to pay out your dead employees packages, rebuild parts (all?) of your plant, buy new vehicles, all on a regular basis it's going to be consuming your profit margins quite a bit. So why would you do it? The hope of gaining an unprecedented market share would very quickly be overwhelmed by the prohibitive cost of operations. This would naturally be the insurgents/terrorists drive from the start.
So I'd hazzard a guess that you probably wouldn't invest in rebuilding a foreign economy (thus helping to improve standards of living), because its just unfeasable when there are psychopaths running around willing to prove their overzealous point.
[TC] Loki
11-07-2005, 10:10 AM
But I do have a question; How can we help these struggling sovreignties (is that even a word?) when they've got to a point where they are openly attacking non-combatants and aid workers?
Bullshit. It's not the strugglening soverign states that are attacking people it is the vast minority, the insurgents, that are doing it.
People need to understand one thing: The wars against Iraq and Afghanistan were illegal under international law. The Iraqi people and the Afghanie people are victems of warcrimes. They have every right to be pissed off that the coalition states have pissed on their soverignty and are now pushing them around, telling them how to live.
But more importantly: not every Iraqi goes around cutting the heads off aid workers and not every muslim is a terrorist.
radass
11-07-2005, 10:30 AM
But I do have a question; How can we help these struggling sovreignties (is that even a word?) when they've got to a point where they are openly attacking non-combatants and aid workers?
So the new iraqi government is ordering attacks on aid workers and civiillians ? get your facts straight
Rogue
11-07-2005, 10:45 AM
So the new iraqi government is ordering attacks on aid workers and civiillians ? get your facts straight
I never said that, you're taking my words out of context here. Likewise with Loki. But then maybe I just used the wrong words. :(
What I was trying to ask was related to your post earlier radass, where you said we should be helping unstable regions and improving living conditions so that people never have to resort to such extremist actions either within their own borders or internationaly.
Its irrelevant what the governing body is saying, the fact remains that every day the are car bombings, suicide attacks, kidnapping, hijackings in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Rwanda, etc. The fact that there are a few doing it, means that the country as a whole must surely have some kind of issues affecting the majority with some people just unable to take it anymore. If that were not the case then why is there what seems like easily a dozen different groups of insurgents in Iraq?
So I was trying to pose the question that if we WERE going to be proactively improving living conditions, in places like this (as responsible international citizens) precisely so that Australia does not become a major terrorist target, then exactly HOW are we meant to do things differently from what we do now and see some real benefits within 5 years without losing thousands of soldiers/non-combatant lives in the process.
radass
11-07-2005, 10:51 AM
ok, i can see i took your statement the wrong way..
But i think that aid workers are generally left alone anyway, it's usually the civiallians that head over to make vast profits out of awful situations that get beheaded etc.
But i see your point. It's a tough one, but we could start by easing up on cunty foreign policies, like how we're stealing East Timor's oil worth AUD$1M a day while they don't have enough money to have a decent school or medical system ..
axl_morgs
11-07-2005, 12:11 PM
But i see your point. It's a tough one, but we could start by easing up on cunty foreign policies, like how we're stealing East Timor's oil worth AUD$1M a day while they don't have enough money to have a decent school or medical system ..
But we wouldnt have helped them out with some of their problems, had we not known we could or were going to be stealing the oil from them. This was an example of helping out, but only if there was something in it for the helper.
Much like many of the western companines 'rebuilding' Iraq. Hello multi-m(b)illion dollar contracts from the government. Hello keeping everything in western control. Hello.
*NoN*Da]rY*
11-07-2005, 12:19 PM
2 much reading again :|
axl_morgs
11-07-2005, 12:35 PM
Hahaha. You better not be referring to my post ;)
Rogue
11-07-2005, 01:09 PM
But we wouldnt have helped them out with some of their problems, had we not known we could or were going to be stealing the oil from them. This was an example of helping out, but only if there was something in it for the helper.
Keep in mind that the Australian companies working the oil fields near east timor have been doing so for quite a while. I believe that it was actually under agreement with the Indonesian government (who were the governing body of the area at the time) that it began in the early 90s from memory.
And also the international borders for that region are based on the continental shelf, which covers those fields to actually be within Australian territory I think. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
I'm not saying that the borders are right or wrong, or that the profit sharing proposed by the Australian government at the moment is fair here because that's a whole different kettle of fish and a bit off topic. I just think it's worth noting that Australia was ALREADY working the oil fields that are now in dispute with East Timor, well before the independance intervention. So to have that as our primary concern when sending over our troops would be a bit... paranoid?
And I think that our insertion of peace keepers into what is now Timor Leste was for reasons like regional stability and human rights, not natural resource exploitation. It may have been a potentially justifying factor in the party board room, but I don't think it was the dominant reason for the 'helping out'.
Much like many of the western companines 'rebuilding' Iraq. Hello multi-m(b)illion dollar contracts from the government. Hello keeping everything in western control. Hello.
Can't argue with you there. The mounting evidence about US state department giving exclusivity of 'first dibs' on the various corporate contracts in Iraq is making it pretty obvious that not everything has been above board there.
rY*']2 much reading again :|
Hahaha. You better not be referring to my post ;)
nah morgs your post was just crap :p (unlike my avatar)
ps: i didn't read morgs post.
*NoN*Da]rY*
11-07-2005, 03:44 PM
man im refering to any post over 5 lines!
i mean i seriously cant be jiggerd reading something that long about something i aint that interested in ;)
and Rogue... if you dont start putting some 1 liners in there ima chop your fingers off! :D
Rogue
11-07-2005, 04:07 PM
rY*']and Rogue... if you dont start putting some 1 liners in there ima chop your fingers off! :D
mwuahahah... will do. :tg
Peter
11-07-2005, 04:08 PM
lol id like to see you make a long post with no fingers :P
*NoN*Da]rY*
11-07-2005, 04:24 PM
o and i would do it 2 :D
Keep in mind that the Australian companies working the oil fields near east timor have been doing so for quite a while. I believe that it was actually under agreement with the Indonesian government (who were the governing body of the area at the time) that it began in the early 90s from memory.
Yeah. Australia let them invade timor so we could grab the oil.
And also the international borders for that region are based on the continental shelf, which covers those fields to actually be within Australian territory I think. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
I actually read something about this not long ago, and its halfway between the two countries.
TeamZephyr
11-07-2005, 08:04 PM
Yeah. Australia let them invade timor so we could grab the oil.
BAM! The exact reason we went to East Timor to "help them become independent" was because we wanted what they have, most of which is oil. Be doing this we have made East Timor even more of a third world country.
[TC] Loki
11-07-2005, 08:09 PM
Bullshit Seth.
The reason we went to 'help East Timor become independant' was three fold.
1. The UN wanted us to lead the multinational peace keeping force.
2. The invasion of East Timor was our fault because we sat back and allowed it to happen in the first place.
3. After the Dili massacar our administration realised it was wrong to sit back and allow Indonesian destroyers fire on civilians, and militia to butcher the East Timorese.
The issue of ownership of the oil fields is a fairly new one, and ever somebody with as much disdain as I have for the Howard government sees that oil and natural gas had very little to do with our intervention.
Remember: Australia did not intervene in East Timor, the United Nations sent a blue beret peace keeping force consiting of troops from 11 nations, including Australia and England being lead by an Australian Major General.
Furthermore, how the fuck would East Timor, the world's poorest nation, develope those oil feilds!? An oil rig can cost upto and including $2,000,000,000 US. Their GDP is nowhere near that high, and borrowing money from the IMF or World Bank would run them further and further into the ground. Australia has a right to take a large portion of the money raised if we build the rigs and fund the project.
Joshu
11-07-2005, 08:34 PM
Loki']An oil rig can cost upto and including $2,000,000,000 US.
Therefore oil rigs can be 1,000,000 - or even 1,000 :eek: Poor choice of phrase.
[TC] Loki
11-07-2005, 08:36 PM
I suppose thats true.
How about: Oil rigs cost a shitload, the world's poorest nation can't afford to set up several of them.
radass
11-07-2005, 08:52 PM
the shelf goes almost all the way to timor -- the oil is very very close to them and very far from us.
http://www.nicholsoncartoons.com .au/flash/flash.php?id=25
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/614/614p24.htm
Zevensoft
12-07-2005, 04:14 AM
Therefore oil rigs can be 1,000,000 - or even 1,000 :eek: Poor choice of phrase.
What about an oil rig with a krusty burger on it?
Give me 700 Krusty Burgers!
Give me 700 Krusty Burgers!
with potatoes!!
good to have you back Eoin :p
Lilbro
12-07-2005, 07:34 PM
Well if the terrorists had tvs and crap (not saying they dont) then they would of maybe seen that we were pretty much the only nation to like mass protest against the war
wat 2 in sydney 1 in melbourne brisbarne and adelaide wasnt it
yeh, we were involved in the war of terror...
so bushy will prolly bomb us too...
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err, I meant the taliban :/
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btw girls...
media is far from all fact, and media want people to get stressed and shocked so they watch it and get more viewers, so when something like a bomb goes off in a train station, some bored kids who decided for some news time.. it can be blown to any proportion required to make it sound more interesting.
bushy wants people to think that it was actualy a war on terror and not just a ''i'm taking over the world'', and so does everyone else involved, not that they have much choise since US controll the world money market and can send a country down by just dropping there dollar value, or maybe.. bombing them because they did a terrorist attack on a train.
beleive what ya want..
they joint got blown, it was bombs
from there on.. fact and fiction no longer exist, and are merged for the most effictive reaction.
radass
14-07-2005, 12:40 AM
Loki']our administration realised it was wrong to sit back and allow Indonesian destroyers fire on civilians, and militia to butcher the East Timorese.
So you're telling me you believe that our government cares about helping people who don't speaking english ? :D
Loki']Furthermore, how the fuck would East Timor, the world's poorest nation, develope those oil feilds!?
Governements generally don't build rigs -- massive oil corporations do. Governments lease the rights to the resource for an amount of bucks
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Well if the terrorists had tvs and crap (not saying they dont) then they would of maybe seen that we were pretty much the only nation to like mass protest against the war
wat 2 in sydney 1 in melbourne brisbarne and adelaide wasnt it
Simultaneous protests were held all over the world - in fact i think London had one of the largest ones ..
Joshu
14-07-2005, 12:56 AM
So you're telling me you believe that our government cares about helping people who don't speaking english ? :D
Words being twisted, misinformation, conspiracy theories, doubt-spreading and opinions being shouted in this thread.
[TC] Loki
14-07-2005, 01:20 AM
Well if the terrorists had tvs and crap (not saying they dont) then they would of maybe seen that we were pretty much the only nation to like mass protest against the war
wat 2 in sydney 1 in melbourne brisbarne and adelaide wasnt it
Actually, there were mass protests in The US, England and Russia (to name a few) that put our protests to shame. Probably has something to do with our small population, but yeah, we definantly were not the only protesters.
Zenon
14-07-2005, 05:49 PM
The Only reason england was attacked... BY THE IRA
is because the north irish group (IRA) want all the English out of northen ireland.
So i think we will not be attacked the same organisation as the english bombings .
Well if the terrorists had tvs and crap (not saying they dont) then they would of maybe seen that we were pretty much the only nation to like mass protest against the war
wat 2 in sydney 1 in melbourne brisbarne and adelaide wasnt it
Spark up your favourite P2P program (if none installed, try Limewire), search:'System of a down - boom'. You can see the size of the protests, where they where and footage of the protests.
(i never make anysense when i just wake up, do i?)
Peter
14-07-2005, 10:19 PM
nah man, ive seen that vid clip, massive protests... and System are awesome :tg
The Only reason england was attacked... BY THE IRA
is because the north irish group (IRA) want all the English out of northen ireland.
So i think we will not be attacked the same organisation as the english bombings .
What an insightful potted political summary.
:rolleyes:
What an insightful potted political summary.
:rolleyes:
Be quiet. Youre Irish, you wouldnt know anything about what went on over there, My reading skills of picture popup books and wild therys are much better than possible first hand witnesses at your dinner table
(why isnt there any sarcasm tags?)
I'd love a popup picture book about the IRA.
The explosions would realy come alive in 3 dimensions. :P
I'd love a popup picture book about the IRA.
The explosions would realy come alive in 3 dimensions. :P
Not to mention the dead englishmen.
That would be the absolute best part of the book.
themunga
17-07-2005, 07:28 PM
In conclusion, Australia are fucked because of George W Bush being fucking gungho and John Howard being an arse licker. That is all.
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