Intel Vs AMD

[Peter]

hey i was just wondering if there was any real difference in the makes, as in is it just the personal preferences and small differences or is there huge differences that would make you choose one over the other?

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[mudgie]

I find Intel more stable, but that's just me... I do believe AMD run hotter, too... And I'm not a fan of AMD's 'marketing' speed ratings they seem to wrench from the inner depths of their anuses. 3000+? What the fuck is that?

[Peter]

yeah ive noticed my AMD does run HOT very hot :/

i think the big question is whether the larger expence is worth the stability

[*NoN*Da]rY*]

Athlon XP's - run hotter but reached great clock speeds from low bus speeds, Relatively stable with something other than stock cooling.

Athlon FX's/64bit - have lower clock speeds but didnt need high clock speeds due to the way the core was programmed. Run nice and cool and extrermely stable.

Pentium 4 - High clock speeds, high bus speeds, decent amount of heat but nothing to high, very stable.

OVER ALL - not alot of differnce. Pentiums were marketed in a way that showed a greater clock speed than Athlons however this didnt mean they were/are faster.

An Athlon 2.4 64bit CPU is a match for a 2.8ghz Pentium 4, and alot of people today only care about clock speed which doesnt mean absolute speed.

Its all down to personal preference, i went P4 just for the OC ability and becasue 64bit CPU's just werent all that @ the time..... i wish i had one now :(

[dominatrix]

An Athlon 2.4 64bit CPU is a match for a 2.8ghz Pentium 4, and alot of people today only care about clock speed which doesnt mean absolute speed.


my 3400+ has a standard clock speed of 2.41Ghz, and it pwns my mates p4 3.4 (which probably has a few more factors in it... but yeah). i can overclock it to 3.85Ghz and still run all my games stabily, and keep the cpu temp under 55 degrees with a generic cooler.

if price is your main factor, there isnt as much difference now with the a64 chips fairly mainstream. but if you get ddr2 mobo (not sure if you can even get amd mobos with ddr2?!), i think i would be right in saying that pentiums would have the upper hand.

[Joshu]

Originally posted by Peter
is it just the personal preferences and small differences

I like AMD because the letter A is infinitely better than the letters I and P.

A

Look at that finely crafted member of our alphabet...:homo

Originally posted by dominatrix
and keep the cpu temp under 55 degrees with a generic cooler.
http://img22.exs.cx/img22/7428/bigfan0pm.jpg - that's your rig isn't it Dom?

[radass]

athlon64s are far superior in both my mind and in benchmarks that the p4. Intel's tech has for too long been driven my 'marketing megahertz' and so they havent really done much innovaton or anything that can be used in the new multi core direction that even intel are going.

althon64 is also much cooler than p4, especially the prescotts, and will receive a good performance boost when 64 bit builds of games start to appear.

AMD were forced to use their 'equivalent rating' model system to avoid losing market share due to the vast majority of computing users not understanding that megahertz aint megahertz. If anything, you should hate intel for fueling this misconception rather than amd for having to survive in it ..

as for ddr2, pretty much ddr2 533 == ddr 400 so there's no immediate benefit to it yet.

[*NoN*Da]rY*]

much like PCI-E :) it will be great one day but right now its farely useless in my mind

[MR_PEA]

Originally posted by radass
as for ddr2, pretty much ddr2 533 == ddr 400 so there's no immediate benefit to it yet. [/B]

how did you come to that concludion??

btw i thought that you would like this as well, seeing as were takin about cpus
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~pgillis/Joel/ownedsocket.jpg

[*NoN*Da]rY*]

lol its a gigabyte... were you expecting any less?

[radass]

Originally posted by *NoN*Da]rY*
much like PCI-E :) it will be great one day but right now its farely useless in my mind

techically yeah (except for SLI) but PCI-E vid cards with the next gen nv chipsets are way cheaper for some reason

Originally posted by MR_PEA
how did you come to that concludion??


Well the increased bandwidth comes at a cost of increased latency. Unless you can afford to spend $600 odd on low latency DDR2 sticks then you'll end up with an equivalent or even under performing memory subsystem .. so one's not necessarily a better than the other but DDR2 isnt really anything to write home about ..

[*NoN*Da]rY*]

shame that ASUS seem to be the only real SLI cards ATM :dead

maybe when abit....... :69

[MR_PEA]

k that sounds about right....
dident relize that was the case!

[dominatrix]

Originally posted by Joshu

http://img22.exs.cx/img22/7428/bigfan0pm.jpg - that's your rig isn't it Dom?

yeah, but the cpu temp increases by 3 or so degrees when i have the big fan on, so i only turn it on when my case temp gets real hot, then turn it off when its stabilised

[radass]

yeah, the 533 coupled with the 'pfft ddr? ddr2 !!' factor is very tempting :D

Apparantly they go off if you get the right stuff and are into overclocking though

[*NoN*Da]rY*]

did i hear Overclocking?!?!?!

[citizen-X]

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